The Last Plane Home

S1 Eps 1 - Columbia during COVID

October 14, 2020 Guy Season 1 Episode 1
The Last Plane Home
S1 Eps 1 - Columbia during COVID
Show Notes Transcript

In this episode, we chat with Coach Pernell Bobby, Founder of the Institute of Lyfe, about his time in Medellin Colombia during the Coronavirus pandemic. Pernell gives us some tips for what to consider when traveling abroad now as well as some of his recommendations for things to see while you're in the "hidden oasis", that is  Colombia. 

Guy Guyton:

Yeah, man, we're here we got Bobby coach Bobby Edwards here. How you doing man?

Pj:

Travel with Guy. What a pleasure to be here. Awesome.

Guy Guyton:

Awesome. Yeah, man different. It's different vibes out here. It's different vibes.

Pj:

I've always loved that way man I really had like, I told myself I was gonna move there like a year ago. And that was three years ago. But

Guy Guyton:

I just remember the first time in 2015, flew out to San Diego and as soon as I opened the wind, like it's like the red eye flight, whatever. And open up that shade and I saw the palm trees were about to land. It's like, this is it, this is the spot. You can't land in California and be sad. It's not possible.

Pj:

So when I when I got the plane, I smelled the air in San Diego. That's what did it I was like, I'm moving here. And I did.

Guy Guyton:

I remember seeing the you in San Diego. Yeah, forever ago with a while ago now.

Unknown:

Yeah, it's like three years Bro . How weird is that? Now the air quality, it's a little different. Things are fired for something. Right? Mm. magnifiers, mostly like in the Pacific Northwest. So that people when you think about California, or you think about like San Francisco, thinking they're like North Cal. But it's like right in the dead middle of the state. its the center, It's not really north. So a lot of Northern California and then Oregon such had a lot of fires, and we get all the backlash. So all of like the fog and things like that and smoke. We're just drifting into the bay area is wild. Absolutely wild.

Pj:

Right. So hey man, what's,what's going on? What are we looking to accomplish today? What do we want the people to know?

Guy Guyton:

First off, like, let me introduce you, right? Where are you? What are you doing? What's the vibe?

Unknown:

Okay, cool. So I'm in Medellin Colombia. It's not what people think it's quite frankly, way better. I think it's a hidden oasis. Quite frankly. I mean, you get all the US comfort with Colombian prices, one of the cheapest places you can be to still get that,

Guy Guyton:

wow. In South America, as you go further south by Argentina and stuff, and the prices are like, it's like you're in Europe, you know, so it's like, you get part you lose. But I mean, the whole city no matter where you're at, no matter what house you are, will class you see mountains. So the whole city is encompassed in the mountains and it's at a higher elevation. So the airs pretty clear that's pretty dope.

Pj:

I tried to leave three four different times as dope as it is because I thought the game universe to kind of tell me but universe is like, not really, bro, you need to stay here. So I'm starting to figure out what that's about. And so what am I doing, I'm writing a book which I already finished the writing of the story I'm in the process of editing or like on page 45 out of 142 and I've been doing NATO readings for I really took in a huge interest in the alignment of the stars where you were born and people learn about their challenges that they're going to face if it's going to be challenges around communication or love or and work so I really been able to hone in on it and it's been helping a lot of big people you know people don't really believe in spirituality but they may believe science because I look snapshot of where you were or what the stars were where you were born that's real bro you can't you can't deny that it is what it is so allows you to really add that spiritual piece into into some science which I'm still a scientist by art right so that's it that's it now after now

Guy Guyton:

So so, let me unpack that a little bit right one thing one first things I heard you say is no Medellin is not what you might think when what do you think is the US because you're from the States? Right? What's the US mindset of what Medellin is in your opinion?

Pj:

They think Pablo Escobar is still alive and they think is on drugs, guns, fighting every day? They think it's the murder capital of the world 25 years ago

Guy Guyton:

So you're saying you're not there? You're actually in in the village in in the leaf?

Pj:

Yeah, so like I'm here it's peaceful bro is like, there's so much that people don't even talk about Pablo Escobar they almost pretend he never existed. Because I mean, they're the trauma when it comes to that like it's in that you could tell no one ever mentioned his name. It's almost like Lord Voldemort, they don't mention his name. And don't give it an asks about it are like foreigners like what about Pablo Escobar and it's like, you can tell people get annoyed because they only foreigners only have a perception of like what Netflix told them. And the people here kind of like I frankly we think that's ignorant but I mean, okay, we get it and get already want to talk much. They're quite frankly the way they are now I look like it's peaceful. not dangerous. I mean Columbia as a whole is still a large country. So it's like as a whole, you're gonna have some stuff happening. It's not in the city of Medellin in this city is exactly what Pablo Escobar was at. It's not in the city. This is more like high up in the mountains, or is going to be six, seven hours away countryside areas where, you know, it's all Colombians, there are no foreigners and the resources are really shot, especially because of quarantine. Right?

Guy Guyton:

Yes.

Pj:

Any tourism that would have been coming. It really hurts countries, third world countries second World country that hurts way more. So you got people complaining about their second stimulus check in free money in the US. Meanwhile, people here for six straight months they have we've had a real warrantied for six months. Everything was closed for six months.

Guy Guyton:

So it was like it business and banks.

Pj:

Everything. You could only get food delivered. That was it. Everything imigration was closed. That's why you know, like, I got a free visa, I would have already had to leave the country. My six months here, you get three months.

Guy Guyton:

Yep.

Pj:

And I restore I think like 25 US dollars, and then you get three more months and then you have to leave the country. I can't come back until January one next year. That would have already I would have already had to leave like a month and a half ago. Had to. But even immigrations was closed. So every tourist here on a tourist visa, that whole time of quarantine was considered quote unquote, free. They kind of know time against started from I think I know September 1, or September 21 is kind of when we you mini opened when you could fly out September 21. You could fly out to Miami. It's like the only destination that we could fly at first. Um, from that point, then they gave us they gave us all 30 days to go see immigrations, which I haven't done yet. And then your time resumes when you got here. So quarantine started two weeks when I arrived. So basically, I still have my three months, almost two and a half months. And then I would be able to renew but that already brings me to a new calendar year. But then from there, I get three more months, and I get three more months. So I don't have to leave now until What? The midpoint of next year. Which is crazy. Because that gives me that six months plus the seven, eight months up in here. Which is uncharacteristic.

Guy Guyton:

You got to adjust before quarantine like what did you What are you going there for like what do you expect? And then how did that slowly like shift, you know, in the first couple of weeks or months?

Pj:

Well, I came here as a part of my book tour, the objective empathy book tour. I did a Connecticut in New York was like the starting point, it kind of started back in Thailand. But it wasn't really active in Connecticut in New York when it first started at a couple events at some some woman empowerment groups at some poetry nights and then it went on to Madrid, Africa and Italy, radio interviews, things like that. Yeah, so that was kind of where the book was going. And the last spot where the tour in was Colombia Medellin. So we've been in effects and working on my Spanish because I wanted to tap into Latin American market spirituality in Colombia, and some of the American is high, they have an indigenous population. So that's really that spirituality in this in this place. It's relevant. Because as out there in your face as like when I was in Asia, but the Spirit, it's more common, it's subtle, like is just a part and it's integrated in their way of living. It's not like it's not commercialized, like Bali, Bali, and I live there like it's more commercialized. People are making money on spirituality.

Guy Guyton:

Yup

Pj:

I got somebody first. Here's just like, they're not worried about making money through spirituality. It's just a part of them, because they know was an important element to a human's life.

Guy Guyton:

So you basically went out there you found a culture and a community that was willing to think kind of outside of the box, and it was open to that spirituality kind of component and, you know, you talked about your scientists, part of your background, your, your exercise science part of your background, too and then he kind of put together this whole package into, you know, mindfulness, right.

Pj:

Sure. Exactly. Know exactly. And now a lot of that was the stuff I learned when I lived in Asia. You know, like when you see how peaceful a monk really is in real life, and you see them every day, walking by, even when you're ready to have breakfast, you know, you go study with them in a temple is and you just recognize like, how much peace they have and they radiate peace. You know, it's not like they just have peace for themselves. They radiate it and they make you feel more peaceful.

Guy Guyton:

Yeah.

Pj:

So yeah, a lot of that it all combined with the science because just know the human body and the mind so well and I found that the physical is the best outlet into spirituality. Know you, work out and you lift a weight that you never thought was possible. You start believing more. You know, it's all about when you see things that are impossible. You know, what we tell people are not possible. You see somebody cure cancer, HIV and things like Dr. SEBI, when you start that sort of physical, right? He was taking away physical elements, physical diseases. And now what we believe is possible, expanded, Roger Bannister, perfect example four minute mile, physically did something, and spiritually, everyone else started to benefit from it.

Guy Guyton:

It's awesome. Yeah, it's interesting, because you know, spending the first part of this COVID period quarantine period in New York, you could see that people were starting to lose, you know, their minds, you know, the, the isolation and just being trapped. Not something like you kind of used to and then coming out. I mean, we were part of the reason we left New York to come to San Fran was the ability to just get out in nature and go and find hikes, or parks or just things that you're a little bit more space with New York use designed, everything you do in New York is designed to do it with like 1000 other people, from the subways to restaurants, whatever it is, like you're just always passing crowded, and that's the norm, and that's fine. But you can't do that in a quarantine environment. So you just, you fundamentally shift, you know, have you seen, how is it? How is the shift been from like, cultural perspective in Medelli you know, from a cultural perspective that first couple of weeks until now?

Pj:

Well, I've seen I've seen hustle on a new level, you know, like, the Colombian people work very hard. Now, like the work that they do. It's not, it's not the majority, you know, we have like a financial district and you see some people that have more money in his very hobbies, they have social classes here, and is very, very obvious. And there's a lot of discrimination, to be honest. The discrimination is not as violent as like discrimination in the US from what I can see on the news and stuff. I mean, I've been here doing all this madness, but their social classes are evident. And you see it, you walk, you smell it. Um, they literally divide people when like, I think it's like six different social classes and those social class areas are, you know, tier one, tier two through six, some people are going to have hot water, some are not, that's a part of how they start to try to, quote unquote, balance. You know, okay, this area has more money, you guys get hot water, you guys get, you know, modern refrigerators, you get extra security, you guys here, you won't even get cold water, which most people don't even mind because it's like, it's healthy for you anyways. You know, so all that stuff. You know, in the tier one tier two areas, you're going to have people getting fruits delivered and stuff to your house by people who find them in the jungles that are around here to mountains around here. versus other people that are ordering food in during COVID and quarantine. So I mean, it shipped massively, because a lot of stuff close. And you know, everybody here in a sense as an entrepreneur, you know, you're running your little food truck shop, you're an entrepreneur, you know, you got your own little, you find your own low market price sneakers, and you sell those out of your garage. All that stuff shifted, because there's no people walking on the streets anymore. You know, it's a very walkable culture is very bikable culture. People are outside the Columbia people love to be outside, they have the perfect weather for it. We could think San Diego for weather almost stays the same as the eternal spring, spring all year round, literally all year round. 365 days, the same. Force is going to get a little hotter in summer a little cooler and all but it's the same within a 10 degree Radius Fahrenheit. And so I think that's what a shift happened. Like, you got to see people hustle like when I was at, I watched a guy prime example. He was a DJ for nightclub. He was banking making money, you know, it's pretty popular. And he had to shift these clubs are still closed one Oh, yeah, clubs are still closed this month, seven now closed still closed. Only two weeks ago today open bars. For social. They opened a month ago but you couldn't drink you go to bars but social permit which couldn't drink alcohol only those social type bars, but clubs, which is what his profession was doing, the DJ join was closed. And I watched him shift bro. I watched him start cooking rice. And I was trying to raise I tried every rainy five types down to free for like, you know, he figured it out three. And then it wasn't enough because he was doing that with other people. So they started doing the rice from like noon to like, I don't know, like 4pm and then at nighttime for him just himself. He wasn't sharing this part. He was doing burgers and he literally said I'm making burgers. And that popped off. Then he had trouble with the police because he was doing it on his balcony. They came in one time we have mad parties there. I'm not gonna lie to you. My time. Did you know me I was living I was like, Yo, I need interaction. I have been in quarantine. I was at a hostel, I got a hostel from Jump Street, all the travelers left. So it was cool because I'm paying $5 a day, and I got my own room. So like I'm climbing the bunk beds and stuff. And that's all cool right meditating. I had different beds. One day was my desk was my office. One was just asleep, nothing touch that bed. one bedroom was to meditate. So I felt like I was higher up already because I want but a whole bunk bed at 10 files a night with a free breakfast. So that was cool. But eventually, I was like, I need people. So we had mad space. We had hostel type space, there was a great area. So I'm like thinking let me bring people here get him some food for gay people to buy the burgers buy the rice. Hello party started with DJ says there, they broke us up like three, four different times. One at a time they came in, they were like you can't cook on the balcony. Which sucks. Another adjustment because they let you do this permit for this. But what we have in front of it, it seems like we need another one for the music to we're like what? Come on man. So harass anyone that didn't really like William with it. But they were like you can't do it. So he had to do it inside the house. Another adjustment, which also soft in a way where people are still coming by he still had foot traffic and the way people see him cook outside. So more people will order burgers. Yeah, you can't see it. So but regardless, the people here are very resilient, very resilient, a lot of things that came from that Pablo Escobar timeframe, where they had the there was a different level of resilience. But I think it's built some type of backbone with them as well, where it's like they figure it out.

Guy Guyton:

Mm hmm. Yeah, I mean, he thought you know, what, resilient, like the New York five, always been resilient in hustle and grind. And, like, it's not just, it's not just the space with doing that, you know, figuring out I mean, I one of the things I love about, you know, on, on the infinite list of things that are horrible about was pandemic, one of the best parts is seeing, you know, the entrepreneurs come on and step up and solve these problems and just seen people innovate, just try something they haven't done. You know, and whether it's starting the finals on just cooking burgers on the side of the road. Or book, you

Pj:

know, the best part, what this man has taken 1500 dollars. He's taking 1500 US dollars. Now, October 1, he goes to Miami for three days, and he moves to San Francisco. This is the spirit. Just to give some perspective, a Colombian man who got that 1500 and the middle of quarantine was here can stretch a lot further than your friend we already know the truth. So he ain't got you know, gotta pay rent, which is probably the biggest. But he's gone here. Knowing that like he's going to ask that he legally work. somewhere. ain't going here. 1500, bro. So I was like, this is the kind of household that's in that. That's in the Columbia

Guy Guyton:

sphere. Love it. Love it. How's your hustle going right now? So he said he's able to go out to Miami. I heard you got you got trapped for a while. What was this? three, maybe four times? Three times? How do you get stuck four times?

Pj:

No, because the first one flight to Denver to go see London and do the North like excellent panel. Yeah, my first flight back in April.

Guy Guyton:

Like the beginning

Pj:

at the beginning. The first one. The second time they told us by September 1 we could fly out. So I had a ticket out September 2 to Mexico. That was gonna be the new ship. Because Mexico was open. I was like, six months visa wise. I was in a stage in my life where I wanted to start building I didn't

Guy Guyton:

want to explore you were just gonna explore continues to look a little bit more. Yeah, but

Pj:

more more to get to a spot where I knew that I didn't have to move. Okay. Because I was like, Okay, look, things are very unsure right now. So where can I go? That I don't have to move and that other people are able to move because I knew the rest of the world can move before us. Was Mexico. Okay us because I was running retreats. That's why I came here Colombia as well and ended the book tour here. But people would have we're going to cut the book, bigger learnings, practices, different spiritual practices that I've learned around the world. Learn how to be more empathetic with themselves and kind with that process of self in developing those emerging things that we see. There's all this stuff I kind of foresaw not just to astrology, but just to my intuition. And I was like, Okay, well, Colombia before quarantine, we're gonna do this and I'm running retreats for free to people about their body and their mind and your spirit. Great. All that stuff. And so next is going to be that new pod. I was going to plant myself, because I was also like, look worse come to worse. I live in San Diego. So I got contacted here if Mexico failed, for whatever reason, is not far from good to see Diego, I can reset there. Yep. You know, so that was the plan because I was like, I'm in a building stage. I'm not in a, I'm not trying to travel. I'm trying to stay in a spot and fill. And so the retreats is really what I was doing. That's why I was going to Mexico. Because I'm new Americans, the Europeans and everybody's can travel there. And then I was like, if anybody is not going to close borders is going to be Mexico. That was my thought process.

Guy Guyton:

And so and this was in August, or Oh, that's

Pj:

like September 2, and that's like, but I didn't know it. So three days prior. they canceled it two weeks prior and email, but I never got an update. So three days prior, I'm thinking I'm out. And they were like, Nah, bro, your stuff in the country? Sounds like what? So I was like, I'm not buying any more tickets, because now I got a

Guy Guyton:

reason. And they just said the border like was Mexico not letting you in? or

Pj:

Mexico is letting me in. But Colombia wasn't letting me out. Okay. So the first time they let people out was actually September 21. And that was only one flight as five days ago, money one flight was doing it Spirit Airlines from Columbia to Miami, the only place out that anybody can go because that's a very frequent line prior to Corona. Yeah, I am in Colombia is like connected, you can get it cheap, very cheap. And it's frequent and sorted only one is at first fine off for the last five days, October 1, October 2, and then they're going to open on international travel. So I might even people are going to start being able to come here. But they're doing it in phases. So October 1, I'm not expecting more than we can leave out everywhere now. Or maybe they don't let people in only only Columbia, like right now in Colombia is can come in, but only in Colombia. So you can't get in right now. But I'm thinking October 2, you might be able to if not that October 15. At the latest November 1 people who come in that's not Columbia naval.

Guy Guyton:

Got it? Got it. So while you've been living overseas, have you like been reached out to from any of the conflicts or anything from our government? Are you nomadic?

Pj:

But you know, that's just me. You know, I I've seen people registering for like the consulate and like, if you're going through an emergency overseas, then you'll get those updates. I just never registered, I saw it. I saw everybody else doing it. But I didn't do it because I had a lot of European friends in Germany, they are registered and I just watched so many people panic. And they're panicking because of all these updates that they got from the registers and the constantly mm level for quarantine. Yeah, increased. This has increased Meanwhile, I'm sitting right here and it's several months later and it's like, ain't shit increase, bro. Like, like, there's nothing more violent. Now mind you, there are some places in some countryside. Six, seven hours away. It's a big Colombia is a big country on energy. So you go out, which basically no foreigners are at right now. There are gun wars between locals and police. In some of these places where you know, they get shadow on the best way to put it excuse my language they they get hooked on. Because the government doesn't support them. If the government is very lopsided, you know, it's not as loud as America, North America is still america and i love North America. Because it's not North America. It's not Donald Trump land in a sense. So it's like, there aren't flashlights happening and people aren't peering into what's happened in the Colombian government. So they kind of get away with a little bit more secrecy and a little more discrepancy because they don't have Donald Trump as the president. So all of corruption is stuff that's happening the people know about it by outsiders don't

Guy Guyton:

Yeah, I mean, I think about that it was all the countries I visited and traveled to if you're not if you're not careful if you're not using exercising common sense if you're going into some of the more secluded spots like you have to be on higher alert people which is you know about New York, where it's it's super unsafe and blah blah, blah, it's like well, no if you if you're in Manhattan itself, so you're fine, almost everywhere. You out to some of the spirits or some of the like, just like in every other city in the world. You know, there's gonna be some scenarios a little bit more unsafe. But yeah, I'm with you, right the travel are are interesting. I take it seriously when it comes to just if I was to get sick, and I needed to go to a hospital like, is that available? You know, do I have insurance? Do I have that ability or what I have to get on a plane or helicopter? Right. Like, that's like, that's my biggest fear there.

Pj:

Right. And, you know, I could share that sentiment, in the sense of one thing I had to make a note we use in New York, I was like, like, when you first moved? Remember, it was happening when you first got your first place in New York?

Guy Guyton:

Oh, yeah, man, I had to move I had to move

Pj:

on what happened in

Guy Guyton:

July or July? Yeah. CCCC. You figure it out. And you adjust, you go to a better spot.

Pj:

Right. Right. Right. But beyond that, you know, just just to remind the audience maybe like, what I what I am, what I've studied, Exercise Science, right? all things related human body, okay. I'm living in these countries where I'm never the one telling you to take a pill. I'm the one with you in a position where you never have to, you know, taking pills for anything, any type of medical attention always comes from a disconnection of spirit. It's when it's when dis ease come. So you know, a lot of us in the world are reacting to things like, again, cancer, diabetes, hypertension, but that's all reaction based. That's not proactivity there's a difference. So like, I'm more proactive with my health, partially because I know it partially because I love it. You know, I have a personal investment in my whole career has been around health, the physical body, and the spirituality came later. So understanding the word dis ease, you know, my boy says this, he's another shaman in another land. And he says it he said the key to life is to stop fucking it up. So it's like, we don't ever really need to go to the house, things don't happen to you, unless you're messing up somewhere in your life. And it's not always directly linked. You know what I mean? Like, prime example, if you're, if your left knee has pain, it can literally be as a result of a shoulder dislocation. And outside of that, if you look at it from a more spiritual standpoint, if you, let's say, you know, you're, you have a lot of upper back problem that's coming from a standpoint of you have too much stress on your life, you carry too much in your shoulders. So whether people want to accept them realize that or not, that is reality. So as you start to remove all that extra weight from your shoulders, which usually is not your weight to carry, that pain also goes away that physical pain goes away, but it resulted from a spiritual process.

Guy Guyton:

Yeah, you know, it's funny, there's a religious YouTuber, Casey Neistat left New York to go to LA, and video. Leaving New York he was sad about emotion, but he and he spent his whole most of his life. They're both career they're, you know, 12 million YouTube subscribers. Did the Korean like an HBO docu series of things about with his brother? And he basically says, like, Look, no one lives in New York, right? Like you're there and you grind in that's it. And you think about mind body, right? And the stress that we all carry, especially just coming from New York, you just you prioritize other aspects of your life. And then think, down the road, you're like, Oh, you know, I'm gonna focus on another four or five or six hours of work, and I'm not gonna prioritize, you know, 30 minutes to an hour of just moving being active and taking care of the body. Yeah, and it's not until hindsight, you look back and you're like, you know, those are like, you know, investments, it's just I look at it, everything is like an investment and you invest the time into your body, it's going to carry you for ever, like, you're only going to get the one.

Pj:

Right, right, right. You know, it's funny, right? It's like, it's like, we work so hard, we grind so hard to make all this money to pay it back for the healthcare we destroyed

Guy Guyton:

in the process of making. And that's like just a normal expectation, you know, first commandment act like that's just, that's what is normal. But, you know, thinking about it, I think about it from the Buddhist perspective, too. It's just karma, like, what you put into what you put out into the universe is what's going to come back? Sure. So there's no there's no, I don't look at it as excuses, right? If you put the time in whatever it is, it's going to come back and if you invest that in yourself, if you invest that in other people, if you invest that in, in in body and less about, you know, the money component, it's all going to come back. It's all

Pj:

yeah Money comes that way anyways, right? Because like because you're putting into yourself, and you put it to yourself and never the sources show you why you want to put into others and add value and impact their lives in a positive way with your unique talent, your unique skillset. Yeah, money comes, because you're inputting into other people what it started because you put into yourself, you know, it's the it's the classic story of the airplane, which I'm looking at right now, which told me that I see a plane flying airplane, you got the mass coming down, put your mask on first see if you can,

Guy Guyton:

yeah. Yeah, man. Exactly. Right. And that's, and that's a lot of it for me is like, why I travel in the first place, right to understand how other people can think you experience of their culture, like maybe you know, the way, the way I think, is directly driven from my experiences, right, and people have influenced me. But if I keep that circle really small to just a few people who have influenced me like that, that's my entire universe, right? Probably go to places you can see, you know, maybe there's a better way, maybe there's a or maybe there's another way, or maybe there's another way, and I can make that a better way. Right. But you can't do that unless you unless you explore you travel a little bit.

Pj:

Sure, sure. I mean, that's the that's the trap right now in black America. But even beyond that, that's the trap around the globe. You know what I mean? The small communities, well, they never leave the corner of the store in the park. So that's all I know. And that's why I think this travel guide channel was so huge, because you're not only motivating other people, but you're inspiring them to see more. That's exactly what I put up, put this up on Instagram post down from having a conversation with you today. And that's what I put in the caption, you know, from what I see about your channel, from outside looking in, is that you are inspiring people to explore themselves by exploring the world. That's what I got. That's what I got.

Guy Guyton:

Yeah, that's the message, right? If you can just figure out a way, a lot of it is like, let's remove the barriers like traveling, you know, outside of a pandemic doesn't like doesn't have to be super expensive. It doesn't have to be this cumbersome, you know, challenging thing and the rewards, you know, the travel, the only thing that you're going to pay for and you're going to get richer, right? You're getting you're gonna get that experience, right? And travel doesn't necessarily have to mean like you have to get on the plane or have to spend all this money you know, you can just explore your backyard, right? explore a little bit of your country for the kind of neighboring countries, or just even what we're doing now. Right? Like, this is so much of this is traveling, having a wall

Pj:

wall. This is awesome.

Guy Guyton:

So what do you what's what's travel been like for you lately? I know you're stuck and you're one spot but like, that doesn't limit you. It honestly has been non existent and I have been limited.

Pj:

But that is not so much because of travel, I would say as much as what my spirit personally needs and what is telling. So that's a different story. And I've tried to force different one on one which is like, Okay, the first tick is like, I couldn't know about quarantine. That's just what it is. Yeah. The second one. I could have. Well, a month later and if I did, I would have been leaving for sure. If I booked one month later, I would have been leaving for sure. But I booked one month when they said it was going to open and it didn't hope and it's interesting because now that I see the circumstances hindsight and I could look at it for what it is today. I don't want to leave that the the delays happy I'm very happy to delay because I knew I was in a stage of building but I didn't respect the fact that building here is exactly what I need. That's seven months here six months here at a time and quarantine bill, I've created a network of I have clients I'm doing new chart readings for in Spanish now. I'm doing these things in Spanish. I never in my life thought that I was going to offer coaching services in Spanish bro. That is insane. That's gross. Yo, bro bro has grown. So now I'm really happy because now it's like I got that several months and now I get that eight more months. That's 15 months I want to build it doesn't help and my personal page build certain processes. So the system when I got to worry about moving, different issues coming moving around, you know, different levels of mental stability. Your mind is moving at a different pace. So now my mind and my body is still I got more time to be still and I learned that The building for me is the movement I travel for me is within the movement of stillness, if that makes any sense in the movement of stillness, so I'm traveling myself, traveling my inner womb, traveling childhood trauma, I'm traveling through the unique surprises that are really unraveling for me every day as I breathe and observe. And just be kind with the changes that are happening. And that's all within myself. So

Guy Guyton:

that's what I like you're transcending, you know, your prior versions and like traveling right? Through growth, right, and it's internal, its internal growth.

Pj:

Boom. So it's, in honestly, me talking about it. I've only really over the last two, three days, I discovered that because I was trying to move, I was trying to make move, I was trying to adjust and wait outside of Colombia, and all that was blocking me. So if I just listened a little sooner, to what my spirit was saying, for why I'm being stuck here. And to actually start seeing the blessings about being quote unquote, stuck here. That's why I put quotations on it now. Like, it's like, Am I really stuck? No, because nothing can really stop me. You know me well enough. Yeah, that if I want to really do something, it's not going to stop me. But when I got the resistance halted. And it pulled all the way. I just pushed more passively, instead of directly running through it, just to kind of like push the barriers to see like, am I supposed to do this? And then like, was kind of like, No, you're not. And I was like, Okay, I'll back up. And then I tested it again, a little later, like, Hey, can I do this now? And it was like, Nah, bro. Stay still. I was like, okay, so I was kind of pushing, but I wasn't really pushing. I really wanted to get out could have got out, get your toe in the water. You see, I'm saying just dip my toe in the water. Because if I did the other way, honestly, I recognize it as would have been a very big headache. It'd been a very expensive very expensive way to do it. I would have the hobbit humanitarian flights. I would it would have just really cost way too much, you know, flights that are costing people $400 because people 1500 dollars. It's like, bro like, Why? Why? I got a man moving from Columbia to San Francisco with that same 1500 dollars. I keep that in my pocket. Pocket, vastly different way. So but now I am ready for low travel. Because you know it is part of my blood is part of our growth as far as how I test myself, but I'm just looking at it like look, I've only been in meta gene because I started my quarantine here in the sense two weeks freedom and then quarantine started. So I'm going to start there's a place why Taipei is two hours away. We're gonna take a bus to something we're going to go to your unknown time span at least the place I'm in now with Buddha behind me and stuff. I love that. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna move on go to watch FA don't know how long it was to do some water. You know? There's places like carta heinous. That's not my by Johanna thing that's the tourist type by but the places around and more like Santa Marta taganga these are more remote places that have that nature has that Beach has that water. I'm going to do more a little bit of traveling within the country where it's not gonna. Not gonna take a lot from me. I'm going to store some stuff here at a friend's house. Take 123 weeks just to debunk from the City Council and the city right now. I'm gonna want to Main Street and I just want I don't want to have cars anymore. Right now it is Carlos. I don't wanna hear cars a little bit. Want to hear more birds? Yeah, my first house here for six months. I just have heard I was in a spot at a blessing that I didn't even know about because it was my first time in South America my first time and energy I don't even know where to go. I just pick my intuition and my intuition was in the right spot. I got stuck. Put a hole in the right spot. A perfect spot. Love it. Oh, that's my travel in the meanwhile that's what it's been. Yep.

Guy Guyton:

So now as things are opening up, you're actually gonna be able to explore the country you want to do explore since April. Exactly. What's your what's your top five? I know you said some there's some areas right? What do you say top five non touristy spots that you want to see in the next couple months.

Pj:

Here in Colombia around the world,

Guy Guyton:

Colombia, Colombia,

Pj:

Colombia. What's happening which normally would be a tourist type spot, but it's partly because you got all that scenery and the tours go to your for it is gorgeous, bro, you should hit up if you're watching this by now. You should type in watch. I pay for Columbia. ridiculously gorgeous, but there's no tours. So I got this tourist type beauty window tours.

Guy Guyton:

Oh, it's good point.

Pj:

Great. So that's one. I want to say Santa Marta, which is like the city which this is kind of like a card to Hana what report card to Hana is towards the woman. People know about Colombia. So the Caribbean coast Caribbean waters, and from there I'm going to run the retreats and even smaller, more remote place, which is 20 minutes from Santa Marta. Let's call toll ganda. Number two, basically just a jungle and beach. No people. That's it. Jungle beach. No. That's the second I want to go to choco, which is the city of basically where all Afro Colombians are all the black Colombia. So here just as many black Colombians, as there are white Colombian people don't know that. But yeah, no one has no idea. I didn't know what cuz I didn't know what to expect here. So I was actually surprised that it was so many white people, but it's just the city that I'm in. I'm in metallurgy. Yeah. When I say white people, I do mean Colombians white Colombians of the world. So that was a surprise. But there's also like tan white Colombians. Yeah, different shades, Merino Merino. I don't know they I don't know the names. I don't know all the names. But choco is like, tacos, the more cultured the more flavor. You can basically think of Africa. You go to here. It's like Africa, but for Spanish speaking people. That's choco area. So that's the Pacific coast. So that's dope. So I'm going to do a little bit of the lakes in the middle of the land. That's one the Caribbean coast and Topanga jungle Beach has to run to Chaco, which is going to be basically Africa. Is that legit African like drum type music. I met some other people here more indigenous type deal. Are they spirituality is higher, I want to do. Letizia which is the entry point to the Amazon jungle here. Because jungle was a part of Colombia that's known before that, I really want to see how I came here. Partially for that to learn the different medicine, drug medicine, I Alaska is DMT which I did do during the beginning, right before quarantine started, and I got an insight of what quarantine is going to be like, all came true. So that's the real real, the whole inside I had in my first time I ever took DMT Yeah, all came true. Everything that I thought was going to happen and everything like and I'm saying this as things are still happening to seven months later from when I first took it.

Guy Guyton:

Yeah. Wow.

Pj:

So I want to learn more about the medicines like I said the indigenous and the spiritual nature. Here's its high, but what is that? 1234 and then there's one the last one I want to see there's a seven rivers there's a rainbow River. There's a river here, kind of like the MACHU PICCHU, PERU seventh color mountain. Because what is a river that has seven colors, which is dough, and why

Guy Guyton:

does it matter?

Pj:

Different colors like you can look and see seven shades of red which is freakin sick and I want to see that

Guy Guyton:

man well that sounds awesome. I would love to see hope you're sending pics. right we'll put them up on the blog

Pj:

I will actually and I got a new camera because I lost my lost my camera a week ago that cost me a quick nice little change let's just say that we have and the cameras crap you know is not anything like a Verizon or Apple phone is these these other phones. The Chinese made phones. I learned about it in China. You know they're mid grade in the sense that they operate just as fast as the galaxies in the apple and they have better quality videos my YouTube videos are like spanking now they're like even better and your quality 108 megapixels crazy bro for half the prices of the US phones. But I'll show you some pictures and hopefully the feature that I want to chat with God page.

Guy Guyton:

Yes, happy to man. All right, so I know it's taking a good money and time and love it love talking to you. As always, for anyone's listening. What are the socials so they can reach out to you on?

Pj:

Yo you can type this on the screen hopefully maybe and it's pronounced Bobby p e r n e Ll Bobby B Oh BB on all channels. YouTube is my primary channel. I went up about 250 subscribers during the middle of this month no more than now in about three 350 or so gone to 40 so it has been my main focus. It's growing. It's consistently growing out. I just did a video today shout it out channel with the guy page. I'm gonna put that up right after this call about the Aries New Moon confident October 1. So that's all my main channels. So you know what's happening on there. You can be looking at Exercise Science, spiritual intelligence. And wow I just forgot medicinal alchemy. The reason I came to Amazon jungle medicine taking what I got from Asia. They want I got from here the Amazon jungle what I knew prior scientists and their size, and that's good. That's what same channel Instagram. I don't really care about my Instagram. Anything I post off so you can go to my YouTube, YouTube?

Guy Guyton:

Alright, so check you on YouTube again, it's Bobby Emery Bobby pronounced

Pj:

for now, Bobby for now, Bobby.

Guy Guyton:

Cool. All right, man. Appreciate it. We'll do it again soon. Want to hear more about what's going on in Colombia? Hopefully you get to see that seven river rainbow cuz I'm a little jealous.

Pj:

Here's my question for you before you go. Yeah. Where do you see the traveling guy? channel going? What is your, your vision hold right now?

Guy Guyton:

Yeah, you know, I think we talked a little bit about the message earlier but I want to help on you know, on debunk all of the travel myths that it's hard and show the value in it right show what you should get what you should expect and inspire right by showing some awesome destinations. So we're coming up, we're doing a California trip we're going pcpch where one reservation, we're just going to run a car and we're going to drive down the coast of San Diego, we're going to see how many days it takes us to get there because anytime we see something cool where it's going to stop. So we're looking up looking up spots now you know, any recommendations hit me up, let me know always looking for that.

Pj:

Jam, bro. La San Diego Mexico. Oh 123 once you get that area I got connects.

Guy Guyton:

I can't wait. I can't wait. So we're gonna do that for a couple weeks. And we'll just show it you know, I guess I really want that drone shot flying out like the back of a convertible like foot, whether it's a Jeep board and we run out and just show the highway. So that's what's coming up next is some more information more tips. You know travel with guys. Now, I love it.

Pj:

I love it. I appreciate what you're doing. I appreciate your effort. My The last thing that I that you remind me of I'm gonna get you a chopping block. Yeah. No, no, I'm not leaving here are my mind starting to settle down I'm not trying to figure out what's happening in a different place. And I know to land here so actually started doing tomorrow got a meeting with a constant blog called all wasabi. Wasabi calm is all about the conscious collective. And I'm going to be writing is my jam right outside. So it's nice I'm doing writing is my jam. So I'm writing a book, I'm going to be writing their articles, they're interviewing, you know, six figures plus entrepreneurs within their content space, within the space. So spirituality stuff like that, I'm going to start taking what they do for their interviews and writing that stuff down. When these are all people in different countries, you know, connection was made in Bali, Indonesia, to the start people in Australia, people in Europe, all about conscious, the conscious movement, the collective trauma with bones and things like that. So yeah, I'm going to get you some information. And maybe one of them are linked right into that. And I tell you, right, combine those two platforms, and help the growth all around.

Guy Guyton:

Sounds awesome. And, you know, it mean, the whole point of travel is to build build the community and to share experiences, right. It's, it's, let's democratize it. Let's just get all the information out there and share it.

Pj:

back.

Guy Guyton:

Yeah.

Pj:

Last debunk because you guys are here to dig deep on mysteries. Yeah. Beyond the fact that Columbia is not metallurgy. I've seen metallurgy, cement metallurgy, I don't know outside of murder capital of the world 25 years ago, 30 years ago, is not that way. That's the first one. The second, it's a really good time to start buying property here and doing business on this soil. Because the way the quarantine went and their economy took such a big hit. Like tourism was huge here for their economies, along with pablos rain stuff that all is why the attention game here. The government has really relaxed on Americans buying property, buying land, starting businesses, okay, brick and mortar type businesses. I'm getting into the Airbnb marking space as a size, something that to income going to buy some property. So stuff like that you are not having to deal with as many paperwork, as many as many barriers as you would normally face. They're kind of letting you slide through and not really have much resistance because they need the money back in your economy. So that's one more thing anybody is looking to build and assessed by I know here, and I know Africa are two big marketplaces. Africa's going to boom, very, very big. Colombia's Bowman, maybe not as big as Africa personal opinion, but it's going to boom. So you guys are travelers, you guys looking at invest. You listen to this channel, travel guy. He's bringing in these experts that are in the land. Thankfully, I'm honored. Thank you for letting me want to come

Guy Guyton:

today. And I appreciate it. Love the protests. And yeah, right. That's the whole point. If there's a little side hustle We can do to, you know all the power to a man

Pj:

breaking my pockets I can go visit my man in San Francisco.

Guy Guyton:

And it's not cheap out here but we got a spot for you this couch. This little setup can be yours. Yeah.

Pj:

couch and kiss my face here

Guy Guyton:

in the middle. It's fine. Man love you. Thank you for coming on being the first one on this morning, man.

Pj:

Get on the

Guy Guyton:

board. I love it. Man. You've been with us from the start. So no doubt